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Nate
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Posted: Thu Aug 21, 2008 3:23 pm Post subject: Living with humans has taught dogs morals, say scientists |
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Living with humans has taught dogs morals, say scientists
By Daily Mail Reporter
Last updated at 6:39 AM on 21st August 2008
Dogs are developing a sense of fair play, scientists have found
Dogs are becoming more intelligent and are even learning morals from human contact, scientists claim.
They say the fact that dogs' play rarely escalates into a fight shows the animals abide by social rules.
During one study, dogs which held up a paw were rewarded with a food treat.
When a lone dog was asked to raise its paw but received no treat, the researchers found it begged for up to 30 minutes.
But when they tested two dogs together but rewarded only one, the dog which missed out soon stopped playing the game.
Dr Friederike Range, of the University of Vienna, who led the study, said: 'Dogs show a strong aversion to inequity. I would prefer not to call it a sense of fairness, but others might.'
The first Canine Science Forum in Budapest was attended by more than 200 experts to discuss what is going on inside the mind of a dog.
Human's inclination to invest dogs with human-like states of mind isn't as unscientific as it might appear as they really do have some remarkable mental skills that allow them to thrive in their strange habitat - our world. |
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Posted: Thu Aug 21, 2008 3:28 pm Post subject: |
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Makes sense to me. They were already pretty smart, for animals. People like smart dogs, too, so they're probably breeding smarter.
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Posted: Thu Aug 21, 2008 5:20 pm Post subject: |
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Oh! That is so cool.
I wouldn't really say these are "morals" though. More like common sense? Dogs just being smarter? Still interesting. |
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Posted: Thu Aug 21, 2008 9:01 pm Post subject: |
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| Arg! I have such a pet peeve about people who try to 'humanize' any animals, but especially dogs. This is a limited series of tests that (as far as the article says) has yet to be repeated or even fully disclosed. My take is that all this says about those dogs is that they've learned what will and will not get them rewarded. That's not morals, that's survival instincts. |
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Posted: Fri Aug 22, 2008 3:54 pm Post subject: |
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| Oh man, I cannot think of anything more twisted than the "human sense of morality." I didnt' know you could catch it! XD the world is truly doomed |
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Posted: Wed Sep 24, 2008 4:20 am Post subject: |
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| dogs can't learn morals. they can imitate, sure, but morals are a god-given gift given only to humans. so its impossible for animals to possess them. |
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Posted: Wed Sep 24, 2008 4:27 am Post subject: |
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| Who pays these clowns to do these tests? I swear, every day I hear of some new but ultimately pointless discovery by scientists...I mean, aren't there diseases that we need vaccines for? |
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Posted: Wed Sep 24, 2008 5:13 am Post subject: |
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| Pavlov's Dog. |
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Posted: Thu Sep 25, 2008 12:28 am Post subject: |
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| This is almost as pointless as the study that suggested celebreties will be on the red carper nude in 2050. |
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Posted: Mon Sep 29, 2008 3:20 am Post subject: |
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| So, shall I prepare a fallout bunker for the inevitable war between man's best friend and humanity? |
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Posted: Sun Nov 30, 2008 4:35 pm Post subject: |
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| That's not true, dogs posses honesty and loyalty already. Look at wolves. They worked in packs, these "virtues" are'nt there because we taught them morals, but because their ancient ancestors needed them to survive. |
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